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Daniel Martin, Oklahoma Highway Patrol Moron of the year

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Rogue Medic pointed out this video. I’d like to point out a few discrepancies. Trooper Daniel Martin’s lawyer states the ambulance would have scene the trooper behind him for 24 seconds. I counted 14. Further, those who have been in an ambulance will be able to tell you just how great those mirrors are. Can you see anything directly behind you?

The lawyer doesn’t seem to understand that the issue is two fold… He pulled the ambulance over because he felt insulted. Because he had his ego stepped on(allegedly). The lawyer also doesn’t understand that this medic was pissed off because this was BS and he was interfering with patient care.

“he has a right to make a traffic stop on an ambulance that is not running code because it is NOTHING MORE THAN ANY OTHER VEHICLE”.

So because I don’t have my lights and sirens on(and I opt to not do so on many patients than are borderline critical, because I believe that lights and sirens can be more dangerous at times than running “not at code”) my patient is not important?!?!? Should I instead run with lights and sirens all of the time so that I have no fear of retribution from the police?

This lawyer proves how little he understands about EMS, and that Trooper Daniel Martin and the Oklahoma Highway Patrol only care about feeding their ego(all while violating OHP policy with a passenger on board) rather than cooperating and taking care of the citizens of the state of Oklahoma.

Back peddle. Back Peddle. Stop. Drop. and Roll. “If we allow people to get out of vehicles and try to handle the traffic stop other than drivers… that’s chaos”

While I try to keep a good relationship with LEOs, simply because I might need them one day… They should do the same. One day when Trooper Martin is calling out “ten-double zero, ten-zero zero! Officer DOWN!” Over his radio… who does he expect to come to plug the holes and save his life? I sure Hope it isn’t Paramedic White…

Oh, and for the record. Every EMT-B student even knows that sirens are effective to 55 mph. It is very possible that the ambulance crew would not hear the sirens inside the back of the ambulance until they were literally on their ass.

Posted by on June 17, 2009 • Filed under: Oklahoma Highway Patrol • Tagged:
  • Dave Konig

    I fully agree. The lawyer did alot of double talk, threw alot of BS around, and proved that the image of an enraged ego maniac we saw on the video is actually the real deal.

    They need to pop that ego with a pin by taking away his badge and his gun.

  • DR Chuck

    I urge everyone to contact Governor Brad Henry of Oklahoma to request the resignation of Trooper Martin. He is an embarrasment to law enforcement.

  • Music Medic

    Seriously, This guy is an F-ing Idiot! Nothing pisses me off more that shit like this. He needs to have his badge revoked, and until he does, I think shit like this will continue to happen on occasion across the US.

  • Rogue Medic

    I watched that whole video and I regret it. Unfortunately, there are a lot of either very stupid people, or a lot of people willing to lie about anything for money.

    Why did they have to drag this press conference out for over an hour?

    Daniel Martin's lawyer piles it deep. And it stinks.

  • 5150Wife

    I agree. Dan's behavior was unacceptable. And his attorney is an ass.

    Regarding the "hand gestures" the attorney spends so much time yakking about…total BS. I don't believe for a second that the ambulance driver flipped Dan off. In the dashcam video we see that Dan himself tells the driver something along the lines of "I don't need you giving me hand gestures when I ask you what's up when I go by you." He does NOT say a word about the driver making any hand gestures as the ambulance passes by, nor does he mention flipping, off, birds, or fingers. Additionally, for the most part, Dan was halfway restrained when talking directly to the driver, not at all like he'd just been flipped off by the guy. I think that whole flipping off story was fabricated by Dan after the fact. His own words in his own dashcam video confirm the EMS' version.

    When I saw the poster-sized pics of the bruises on Dan's arms that flanked the attorney, I cringed. And not out of sympathy, I assure you. Trying to play the Poor Pitiful Me card didn't set well with me, and I can't imagine it did for too many other people either.

    Granted, I'm none too happy when my own hubby comes home banged up after having to go hands on with a suspect, but this case is different. With the abuse of authority in this case, those bruises on Dan's arms should be the LEAST of his worries.

  • Rogue Medic

    5150 Wife,

    Dan himself tells the driver something along the lines of "I don't need you giving me hand gestures when I ask you what's up when I go by you." He does NOT say a word about the driver making any hand gestures as the ambulance passes by, nor does he mention flipping, off, birds, or fingers.

    I had missed that. Nice catch. Although he may use hand gesture for the finger. I wonder if he would describe putting his hand around Maurice White, Jr.'s neck as a hand gesture.

    We do not know what Paul Franks did. We do not know what Daniel Martin saw. The result is a bit extreme.

    I added some comments on this in
    Some Corrections on OHP vs. Creek Nation EMS.

  • Anonymous

    First of all, you need to get an education. It is "seen" not scene. (2nd sentence)

    Secondly, it DOES NOT violate OHP policy to have a passenger on board.

    Also you state that the officer pulled the ambulance over because he "felt insulted"..No, the ambulance broke the law, that is the reason. (Trooper Martin also makes ref to the hand gesture on the video)

    As we have all been taught from an early age, you do not ever get out of your vehicle when you are stopped by the police. Maybe years ago this was the norm, but not in recent memory. If the medic would have stayed in the ambulance and let the trooper deal with the driver this would have ended very quickly. But instead the medic gets out of the ambulance and slams the door shut. He bows up and tried to take charge. He was interfering with the trooper doing his job. Once you lay hands on an officer, you are bought and paid for.

    It amazes me how ignorant some are.

  • Rogue Medic

    Anonymous part I,

    First of all, you need to get an education. It is "seen" not scene. (2nd sentence)

    You go, girl! You educate him.

    Secondly, it DOES NOT violate OHP policy to have a passenger on board.

    Also you state that the officer pulled the ambulance over because he "felt insulted"..No, the ambulance broke the law, that is the reason. (Trooper Martin also makes ref to the hand gesture on the video)

    Oh great educator, how does the ambulance break the law?

    According to Daniel Martin's lawyer, Paul Franks did not pull over more slowly than the drivers of many other vehicles seen earlier in the video. These drivers are not dealing with multiple emergency radios, a passenger up front, a patient in the back, a loud diesel engine, and a box that blocks much more of the view to the rear.

    According to Daniel Martin's lawyer, giving the finger to Daniel Martin is not probable cause.

    As we have all been taught from an early age, you do not ever get out of your vehicle when you are stopped by the police.

    You make a statement that you seem to want to prove your opinion, then you contradict yourself.

    Maybe years ago this was the norm, but not in recent memory.

    Which is it? We have all been taught this, or this is only in recent memory? Or is it not in recent memory?

  • Rogue Medic

    Anonymous part II,

    If the medic would have stayed in the ambulance and let the trooper deal with the driver this would have ended very quickly.

    Haven't we all been taught that when a trooper pulls over an ambulance and finds out there is a patient on board, he should act as if he is a responsible individual and tell the driver he will meet them at the hospital? If only OHP had some sort of motto that pertained to this.

    Not continuing the fraudulent traffic stop would be a quick end to the delay in patient care. We have no way of knowing how long Daniel Martin might have kept everybody there. Yet you claim to read minds.

    How do we know that Daniel Martin would not have kept them there for hours? Because that is what he says after he was caught.

    Daniel Martin never checked on the patient. He opened the rear doors, but only to lie to the patient. He told her she would be on the way to the hospital quickly. At the same time he was arranging to delay her transport even more by arresting the only person there authorized to take care of her.

    I guess the educators you describe do not care about sick or injured people. What if this had been the family member of a trooper?

    But instead the medic gets out of the ambulance and slams the door shut. He bows up and tried to take charge.

    Excellent example of the kind of writing you were so picky about, only worse.

    Send him to the slammer for being a slammer. That's the kind of get tough on slamming language we need.

    The medic is in charge of patient care. Daniel Martin cannot relieve the medic of that duty, no matter how loudly he throws a tantrum.

    He was interfering with the trooper doing his job.

    The trooper was interfering with EMS personnel doing their jobs. Any sensible trooper would have taken this up at the hospital or through appropriate channels. Not Daniel Martin.

    Once you lay hands on an officer, you are bought and paid for.

    Bought and paid for? What kind of juvenile statement is that?

    I guess the DA needs to be educated by a smarty pants like you. If only the DA would realize what an excellent educator is available to him.

    It amazes me how ignorant some are.

    Daniel Martin demonstrated profound ignorance, when he interfered with patient care. You are defending that ignorance.

    You should hope that you do not do something similarly stupid on camera.

    You criticize a minor mistake, but are guilty of many similar mistakes. You are a hypocrite.

    Stop trying to give honest LEOs a bad reputation.

  • Medic(three)

    Oh snap. CHeck out page one for my response!

  • Anonymous

    Read the first on this page, you say "scene"

    Anways enough about grammar lets dive back into this.

    Tha ambulance breaks two laws. Law 1, fail to yield to emergency vehicle. Ok Law says when approached by an emergency vehicle you shall pull to the right and yield immediately. It does not say that you can drive 14 secs or 42 secs or 10 mins, it says immediately. Law 2. Okla. Law says that when changing lanes or moving from a direct course, you shall give a visual signal that you are doing as such.

    With no emergency lights on, this makes the ambulance a "regular" vehicle. I understand that you are saying that in times a medic does not "run" lights/siren for fear of stressing a patient. Then why cant you just run lights? I have seen this. But in this situation, neither lights or siren were activated.

    As for getting out of your vehicle. I was attempting to be respectful of your age. By your comments I am assuming you are an older member of society. What I was saying is, you do not get out of your vehicle when you are stopped, unless you are instructed to by the officer. Back years ago when my father and probally you were driving, your father probally told you to get out of the car and meet the officer at the rear. THis is just not a safe practice to get into in todays time. Stay in the car and keep your hands on the wheel.

    It seems that some are not seeing the big picutre here. Were there errors in jundgement on both sides? sure. However, this situation was made worse by Mr. White getting between the trooper and the driver. It got EVEN more out of control when the medic shoves the trooper. I would encourage you to look into the medics past. You will find an interesting background that will shed some light on this whole ugly situation.

    But instead the medic gets out of the ambulance and slams the door shut. He bows up and tried to take charge.

    Excellent example of the kind of writing you were so picky about, only worse.

    Send him to the slammer for being a slammer. That's the kind of get tough on slamming language we need.

    This was me just showing the anger that was in the medics actions. The medic is not innocent in this deal, that is were the ignorance comes in to play of some people. They are seeing this one sided. THere are two sides to every story. Is anyone talking about the relationship this ambulance has with other LEO in the area? You will find that there is conflict.

    -I guess the DA needs to be educated by a smarty pants like you. If only the DA would realize what an excellent educator is available to him.-

    The above comment really makes me grin. If you really knew all the details you would get a chuckle out of it as well!

  • Anonymous

    Read the first on this page, you say "scene"

    Anways enough about grammar lets dive back into this.

    Tha ambulance breaks two laws. Law 1, fail to yield to emergency vehicle. Ok Law says when approached by an emergency vehicle you shall pull to the right and yield immediately. It does not say that you can drive 14 secs or 42 secs or 10 mins, it says immediately. Law 2. Okla. Law says that when changing lanes or moving from a direct course, you shall give a visual signal that you are doing as such.

    With no emergency lights on, this makes the ambulance a "regular" vehicle. I understand that you are saying that in times a medic does not "run" lights/siren for fear of stressing a patient. Then why cant you just run lights? I have seen this. But in this situation, neither lights or siren were activated.

    As for getting out of your vehicle. I was attempting to be respectful of your age. By your comments I am assuming you are an older member of society. What I was saying is, you do not get out of your vehicle when you are stopped, unless you are instructed to by the officer. Back years ago when my father and probally you were driving, your father probally told you to get out of the car and meet the officer at the rear. THis is just not a safe practice to get into in todays time. Stay in the car and keep your hands on the wheel.

    It seems that some are not seeing the big picutre here. Were there errors in jundgement on both sides? sure. However, this situation was made worse by Mr. White getting between the trooper and the driver. It got EVEN more out of control when the medic shoves the trooper. I would encourage you to look into the medics past. You will find an interesting background that will shed some light on this whole ugly situation.

    But instead the medic gets out of the ambulance and slams the door shut. He bows up and tried to take charge.

    Excellent example of the kind of writing you were so picky about, only worse.

    Send him to the slammer for being a slammer. That's the kind of get tough on slamming language we need.

    This was me just showing the anger that was in the medics actions. The medic is not innocent in this deal, that is were the ignorance comes in to play of some people. They are seeing this one sided. THere are two sides to every story. Is anyone talking about the relationship this ambulance has with other LEO in the area? You will find that there is conflict.

    -I guess the DA needs to be educated by a smarty pants like you. If only the DA would realize what an excellent educator is available to him.-

    The above comment really makes me grin. If you really knew all the details you would get a chuckle out of it as well!

  • 5150Wife

    Is anyone talking about the relationship this ambulance has with other LEO in the area? You will find that there is conflict.

    Please do be more specific. Are you talking about the ambulance itself, driver Franks, or medic White? From what I understand from other OHP, you are probably referring to White, but I'd like to make sure.

    Yes, I would very much like to know why no one is talking about it. I'm sure the public would love to know which other OHP officers have put White in a choke hold. Let's show THOSE dashcam videos to see how THOSE OHP officers dealt with White. Or at least share them with Dan; perhaps he could learn a thing or two on how to deal with such situations.

    Furthermore, if White has created such problems for the OHP in that district in the past, why has nothing been done about it? Why have no formal complaints been filed against him? Why has OHP not previously established protocol on how to handle such situations?

    Unfortunately, the OHP's lack of action on this incident (and previous incidences with White as purported by a few OHP officers, yet denied by others) the OHP is in fact establishing protocol …and it is one which does not generally set well with those outside of OHP.

    Oh, and as far as the lights and sirens on the ambulance, I believe it was driver Paul Franks who stated that ambulance is not equipped to run either/or…it's all or nothing. (I could be wrong on who made that statement, I think it was Franks but can't remember with 100% certainty) If that is the case, I agree with you that lights only should be an option. But we all know how that goes with lack of proper equipment (such as OHP not having handhelds. Yes, I know the excuse for why they don't and it's just that…an excuse – a poor one).

  • Anonymous

    I can not go into deatail pertaining to the issues with the ambulance service and Mr. White. I have found some interesting info on Mr. White. I have done no reserach on this ambulance service, just have heard rumors. But, you know how rumors can go.

    FYI, as far as the comment about hand held radios, OHP does have them.

    I will wrap this up by saying that I feel that errors in judgement were made on both sides.This could have been handled differently. If trooper Martin would have not stopped this vehicle, then this would not have happened. If Mr. White would have stayed in the ambulance, this may not have happened. But the fact is, Trooper Martin made a lawful traffic stop on a vehicle for a traffic violation. He can not allow an occupant (whether medic or otherwise) take control over that stop. It is paramount that you remain in control. Now, I know your gonna say "control was lost" and I agree.Trooper Martin was doing the best he could to regain control by attemtping to remove the agitator/aggressor from the situation. But when you start to have a group of people surround you, one of which is video taping you, and the total chaos that is going on, you do what you have to do. IF you watch the dashcam video, you actually see one of the males bend over as if to stretch. Is he wanting to join in on the fight? Is he releaving tension? who knows? I am relucntact to state what I would have done, beucase I have had several months now to replay it over and over. But Trp. Martin, had to make a split second decision and the decision he made was not in violation of the law.

  • 5150Wife

    FYI, as far as the comment about hand held radios, OHP does have them.

    Really? Then OHP needs to be a bit more liberal in handing them out, as I have never seen nor known an OHP officer to have one and have been told by them why they do not have them.

    I'm all about officer safety. I think the OHP does its officers an injustice on several safety aspects, handhelds being just one of them…having citizens come sit in the front seat of the unit while the officer runs them/write them is another biggie.

  • Anonymous

    Every Trooper is issued a hand held radio, this I know for a fact. If a trooper tells you that he does not have one, he means that he does not carry it with him, for whatever reason, but each do, infact have at least one radio.

    As for the the violator sitting in the front seat, this is officer descrition. SOme feel that it is safer to have the violator sit next to them so they can be "watched". Lots of good interviews are conducted this way. Also, its easier to smell alcohol on someone with them sitting in a confined area. Others will argue that it is safer for the voilator to remain in their own car. But each time an officer walks up on a car, whether its the initial approch or the "return" trip to give the voilator the warning or ticket, is always the most dangerous. You have to deal with the idiots driving by you at 70 MPH and then pay attention to the violator. Lots of stuff going on all at once. More officers are killed by getting ran over than by being shot on a traffic stop.

  • 5150Wife

    I find your post to be most troubling. If what you say is true, then it shows more evidence of the lack of control OHP has over its troopers' actions, lack of protocol, and lack of concern for officer & citizen safety…not to mention lack of honesty coming from the troopers who've discussed the radio situation with me. Interesting.

    I'm afraid Dan's situation has shed overwhelming light on many of the shortcomings of the OHP. Disappointing, to say the least.

    As far as having the driver sit in the trooper's front seat, we could debate all day & night the numerous reasons it is unsafe. But I am curious about one thing: I am not personally aware of another agency which does that, be it local, county or state. (I'm sure there are some; I just don't know who they are) Do you know of one? I am genuinely curious to know who OHP models this after.

  • Rogue Medic

    Anonymous,

    Tha ambulance breaks two laws. Law 1, fail to yield to emergency vehicle. Ok Law says when approached by an emergency vehicle you shall pull to the right and yield immediately. It does not say that you can drive 14 secs or 42 secs or 10 mins, it says immediately. Law 2. Okla. Law says that when changing lanes or moving from a direct course, you shall give a visual signal that you are doing as such.

    I do not see anything in the video that suggests that Paul Franks did not pull to the side of the road as safely and quickly as possible after becoming aware of the lights and sirens.

    We do not know when he became aware of the lights and sirens, but can only guess. Unless you claim psychic powers, you do not know either. He cannot respond to something he is not aware of.

    Pulling to the side of the road does not relieve him of his obligation to drive safely. He swerved around a vehicle to avoid hitting it, but did not signal. Perhaps that was because he was surprised by the behavior of the vehicle.

    The important thing is that these are questions that should be addressed, if at all, at the hospital after the transfer of patient care. Anything else is incompetence.

    With no emergency lights on, this makes the ambulance a "regular" vehicle. I understand that you are saying that in times a medic does not "run" lights/siren for fear of stressing a patient. Then why cant you just run lights? I have seen this. But in this situation, neither lights or siren were activated.

    This might be done, but it depends on state law, department policy, county EMS rules, . . . . I do not know what applies. I prefer not to use any lights or sirens when transporting patients.

    2 reasons.

    It does not make much of a difference in transport time, unless getting me through a bunch of traffic lights.

    Some other vehicles will make sudden and unexpected stops, turns, and other maneuvers that increase the danger to my patient, when they become aware of the lights and/or sirens. It may only take one sudden swerve, even if there is no collision, to alter the outcome for a patient.

    As for getting out of your vehicle. I was attempting to be respectful of your age. By your comments I am assuming you are an older member of society. What I was saying is, you do not get out of your vehicle when you are stopped, unless you are instructed to by the officer. Back years ago when my father and probally you were driving, your father probally told you to get out of the car and meet the officer at the rear. THis is just not a safe practice to get into in todays time. Stay in the car and keep your hands on the wheel.

    I agree that this is what the driver of an automobile should do.

    An ambulance with a patient on board, even when not operating in emergency mode, is different.

    I do not like the way Maurice White, Jr. left the ambulance, but there is clearly a history between them. How many times has Daniel Martin interfered in patient care? We can only guess, but the response of the medic suggests here he goes again, interfering in patient care.

    I don't know the background and can only speculate. You claim to know rumors. Maybe the rumors are more accurate than my speculation. Maybe my speculation is more accurate than your rumors. We do not know.

  • Rogue Medic

    Anonymous part II,

    It seems that some are not seeing the big picutre here.

    The big picture is that the patient should come first, both for EMS and for OHP. There is no real concern of flight from prosecution or difficulty identifying the people involved. They all know each other. They work together.

    Were there errors in jundgement on both sides? sure.

    And if Daniel Martin had behaved responsibly, there would have been no escalation.

    However, this situation was made worse by Mr. White getting between the trooper and the driver. It got EVEN more out of control when the medic shoves the trooper.

    I did not see any shove. I saw him pulling his arm away from the trooper. I agree that this was not the way to handle things, but this should have been handled at the hospital. There is no good reason to endanger a patient on the side of the road.

    You may claim that you are not endangering a patient, but you have no way of knowing without at least asking. Daniel Martin never asked about the patient. Unless you have information to the contrary, you should assume that delaying transport for a minor traffic infraction is endangering a patient for no good reason.

    I would encourage you to look into the medics past. You will find an interesting background that will shed some light on this whole ugly situation.

    I have read the article that was published about both of them. Daniel Martin is much more scary. If nothing else, he has a gun.

    But instead the medic gets out of the ambulance and slams the door shut. He bows up and tried to take charge.

    This was me just showing the anger that was in the medics actions.

    Maybe slamming the door indicates anger. Maybe not. With the same amount of force applied, some doors slam, while others do not.

    The medic is not innocent in this deal, that is were the ignorance comes in to play of some people. They are seeing this one sided. THere are two sides to every story. Is anyone talking about the relationship this ambulance has with other LEO in the area? You will find that there is conflict.

    Point to some documentation to support this.

    Are you claiming that it is OK for Daniel Martin to harass this ambulance crew, because of the relationship this ambulance has with other LEO in the area?

    Hey, I heard that sheriff X had some problem with ambulance Y.

    Unbelievable. Let's go pull over ambulance Y and write some tickets for them, when they come through here.

    Maybe some gratuitous choking, too.

    Why not, this kind of rumor completely justifies choking.

    -I guess the DA needs to be educated by a smarty pants like you. If only the DA would realize what an excellent educator is available to him.-

    The above comment really makes me grin. If you really knew all the details you would get a chuckle out of it as well!

    Feel free to enlighten us. If you cannot, then what is to stop me from making the same kind of suggestive comments.

    There was a bad traffic stop.

    Daniel Martin was not behaving professionally.

    Maurice White, Jr. was no saint, but he did try to de-escalate the situation several times.

    The patient needs to come before any petty, or even not-so-petty disputes.

  • Rogue Medic

    Anonymous,

    I can not go into deatail pertaining to the issues with the ambulance service and Mr. White. I have found some interesting info on Mr. White. I have done no reserach on this ambulance service, just have heard rumors. But, you know how rumors can go.

    Speaking of rumors, I have heard that OHP chokes every black man who drives through the state. They even have video of one case of this. But you know how rumors can go.

    Is such a comment fair to anyone involved?

    I will wrap this up by saying that I feel that errors in judgement were made on both sides.This could have been handled differently. If trooper Martin would have not stopped this vehicle, then this would not have happened. If Mr. White would have stayed in the ambulance, this may not have happened. But the fact is, Trooper Martin made a lawful traffic stop on a vehicle for a traffic violation.

    It may have been lawful, but I think that it would have been immediately dismissed by any judge. Is the ambulance responding more slowly than other vehicles? According to Daniel Martin's lawyer, the answer is no. How do you justify picking out the one vehicle transporting an emergency patient to stop.?

    He can not allow an occupant (whether medic or otherwise) take control over that stop.

    Unless he can take over care of that patient, he does not really control that traffic stop.

    It is paramount that you remain in control. Now, I know your gonna say "control was lost" and I agree.Trooper Martin was doing the best he could to regain control by attemtping to remove the agitator/aggressor from the situation.

    Daniel Martin was the agitator/aggressor.

    But when you start to have a group of people surround you, one of which is video taping you, and the total chaos that is going on, you do what you have to do.

    All of which was created by Daniel Martin's focus on the irrelevant. If he would have used his head, he would never have behaved as he did. How do you arrest the person taking care of a patient in front of the family and not get stomped on? Pure luck.

    This is not someone you would want providing cover for you on any emergency scene. He was not aware of what was going on around him. He was lucky that the family was a bunch of peaceful people, because he would not have had a chance at controlling that scene.

    IF you watch the dashcam video, you actually see one of the males bend over as if to stretch. Is he wanting to join in on the fight? Is he releaving tension? who knows? I am relucntact to state what I would have done, beucase I have had several months now to replay it over and over. But Trp. Martin, had to make a split second decision and the decision he made was not in violation of the law.

    It was a violation of ethics, at the very least.

    I saw the guy bending over and I thought that he was trying to see what was going on, but you cannot tell what is going through someone's mind.

    I was surprised that none of the women jumped in. Scene awareness was completely absent on this call. If a woman had jumped on his back and grabbed him around the neck, what does he do? Anything he does is only going to escalate the violence.

    What if Daniel Martin shot someone?

    All this because he thought somebody gave him the finger and couldn't wait until they transported their patient to emergency.

    As many LEOs have stated, about both of these videos, As soon as I realized there was a patient on board, I would have told them to continue to the hospital.

    There is no benefit to dealing with this on scene. There is no justification for dealing with this on scene. As Maurice White, Jr. said, Sir, you can arrest me at the hospital.

  • Anonymous

    As I said earlier, I agree that I would have dealt with this later, if I were the trooper making the stop. I would not have gone to the hosptial, I would have dealt with it back at the station.

    Everything else you've said just confirms, that you dont have a clue.

    End of discussion, have a good day.

  • Rogue Medic

    Anonymous,

    As I said earlier, I agree that I would have dealt with this later, if I were the trooper making the stop. I would not have gone to the hosptial, I would have dealt with it back at the station.

    How silly of me, I thought this was about Daniel Martin and his misbehavior.

    Everything else you've said just confirms, that you dont have a clue.

    I guess it is a systemic problem at OHP.

    End of discussion, have a good day.

    If you can't convince people, just declare victory and run away.

  • Jeff

    Anonymous why are you afraid to give a name, If you are a OHP trooper your thinking is scary and twisted. You give me good reason to avoid your state like the plague.

  • Anonymous

    The Trooper needs to be fired. The EMS crew, family of the patient, and the patient deserve a HUGE apology.

  • Randy Albert

    Bad cop

  • Rebekah Kerns

    Patrolman Martin was OUT THERE! EMS is an important member of the Emergency Services Team. Each agency should respect the role of the other. When an officer is down, it will be EMS down in that muddy ditch, not a trooper. They will be standing around thinking “Thank God it's not me. Maurice was very professional with this out of control individual that was carrying a gun. Patrolman Martin needs some serious time with Dr. Phil before they let him back out on the streets to “protect” us. Who will protect us from him?
    Maurice White is a very good medic. I was his partner for about a year and I thought he maintained his professionalism despite the rough treament

  • Rebekah Kerns

    Patrolman Martin was OUT THERE! EMS is an important member of the Emergency Services Team. Each agency should respect the role of the other. When an officer is down, it will be EMS down in that muddy ditch, not a trooper. They will be standing around thinking “Thank God it's not me. Maurice was very professional with this out of control individual that was carrying a gun. Patrolman Martin needs some serious time with Dr. Phil before they let him back out on the streets to “protect” us. Who will protect us from him?
    Maurice White is a very good medic. I was his partner for about a year and I thought he maintained his professionalism despite the rough treament

  • Rebekah Kerns

    Patrolman Martin was OUT THERE! EMS is an important member of the Emergency Services Team. Each agency should respect the role of the other. When an officer is down, it will be EMS down in that muddy ditch, not a trooper. They will be standing around thinking “Thank God it's not me. Maurice was very professional with this out of control individual that was carrying a gun. Patrolman Martin needs some serious time with Dr. Phil before they let him back out on the streets to “protect” us. Who will protect us from him?
    Maurice White is a very good medic. I was his partner for about a year and I thought he maintained his professionalism despite the rough treament

  • Rebekah Kerns

    Patrolman Martin was OUT THERE! EMS is an important member of the Emergency Services Team. Each agency should respect the role of the other. When an officer is down, it will be EMS down in that muddy ditch, not a trooper. They will be standing around thinking “Thank God it's not me. Maurice was very professional with this out of control individual that was carrying a gun. Patrolman Martin needs some serious time with Dr. Phil before they let him back out on the streets to “protect” us. Who will protect us from him?
    Maurice White is a very good medic. I was his partner for about a year and I thought he maintained his professionalism despite the rough treament

  • Ethan

    Who will protect us from Martin? I'll protect myself from him. If he ever pulls me over I will be in fear for my life and step on the gas until I can find a LEO. If I ever meet Martin on the street I'll be glad I carry (I will avoid any confrontation with him). This guy is a maniac and it scares me that he has a badge and I might meet him one day.

  • Robbjsn

    As an EMT I think both parties are wrong here. First Martin should have not lost his temper and should have let the ambulance go and dealt with the situation at a later time, But also the paramedic should have not abandoned his patient in the back to argue with the cop. In my state you could lose your cert for that.

    • http://www.medicthree.com medicTHREE

      I agree. Sad it came to this.

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