Or is it just one of his buddies from the OHP trying to cover his ass?
From the post: Daniel Martin, Oklahoma Highway Patrol Moron of the year
ANONYMOUS seems a bit miffed. And confused. We’ll examine his comments, and those of my dearest friend Rogue Medic in response. My comments will be italicized. You’re stupidity in bold.
First of all, you need to get an education. It is “seen” not scene. (2nd sentence)If you are going to use quotes on one “word”, you need to use it on the other “word”.
Secondly, it DOES NOT violate OHP policy to have a passenger on board.
EVEN while responding code 3? What is the purpose of this passenger? What about the dangers of responding code 3 to this passenger? Did this passenger have a waiver on file with the OHP? I bet the citizens of the Great State of Oklahoma would disagree when it is their tax dollars paying the bill because some jackass killed his passenger while driving code 3.
Also you state that the officer pulled the ambulance over because he “felt insulted“..
I can only assume you meant to put a space where the period went. Maybe my EDUCATION failed me, but I doubt it.
No, the ambulance broke the law, that is the reason. (Trooper Martin also makes ref to the hand gesture on the video)
Hmm…. improper abbreviations, no period, and bad comma usage. Oh Snap! I did it too!
As we have all been taught from an early age, you do not ever get out of your vehicle when you are stopped by the police. Maybe years ago this was the norm, but not in recent memory. If the medic would have stayed in the ambulance and let the trooper deal with the driver this would have ended very quickly. But instead the medic gets out of the ambulance and slams the door shut. He bows up and tried to take charge. He was interfering with the trooper doing his job. Once you lay hands on an officer, you are bought and paid for.
How does “bowing” fit in here. Further, are you trying to imply that you can “buy” an African American? Sounds like it. How was this trooper doing his job? What duty to the people of the state of Oklahoma was he fulfilling by holding up the transport of a patient to the hospital.
It amazes me how ignorant some are.
I’m sorry, but if you are silly enough to try and come into MY blog and school ME, try and check for simple typos. Especially when you start out by pointing out mine.
I’ll let Rogue Medic finish you off:
Anonymous part I,First of all, you need to get an education. It is “seen” not scene. (2nd sentence)
You go, girl! You educate him.
Secondly, it DOES NOT violate OHP policy to have a passenger on board.Also you state that the officer pulled the ambulance over because he “felt insulted”..No, the ambulance broke the law, that is the reason. (Trooper Martin also makes ref to the hand gesture on the video)
Oh great educator, how does the ambulance break the law? According to Daniel Martin’s lawyer, Paul Franks did not pull over more slowly than the drivers of many other vehicles seen earlier in the video. These drivers are not dealing with multiple emergency radios, a passenger up front, a patient in the back, a loud diesel engine, and a box that blocks much more of the view to the rear. According to Daniel Martin’s lawyer, giving the finger to Daniel Martin is not probable cause.
As we have all been taught from an early age, you do not ever get out of your vehicle when you are stopped by the police.
You make a statement that you seem to want to prove your opinion, then you contradict yourself.
Maybe years ago this was the norm, but not in recent memory.
Which is it? We have all been taught this, or this is only in recent memory? Or is it not in recent memory?
If the medic would have stayed in the ambulance and let the trooper deal with the driver this would have ended very quickly.
Haven’t we all been taught that when a trooper pulls over an ambulance and finds out there is a patient on board, he should act as if he is a responsible individual and tell the driver he will meet them at the hospital? If only OHP had some sort of motto that pertained to this.
Not continuing the fraudulent traffic stop would be a quick end to the delay in patient care. We have no way of knowing how long Daniel Martin might have kept everybody there. Yet you claim to read minds.
How do we know that Daniel Martin would not have kept them there for hours? Because that is what he says after he was caught.
Daniel Martin never checked on the patient. He opened the rear doors, but only to lie to the patient. He told her she would be on the way to the hospital quickly. At the same time he was arranging to delay her transport even more by arresting the only person there authorized to take care of her. I guess the educators you describe do not care about sick or injured people. What if this had been the family member of a trooper?
But instead the medic gets out of the ambulance and slams the door shut. He bows up and tried to take charge.
Excellent example of the kind of writing you were so picky about, only worse.
Send him to the slammer for being a slammer. That’s the kind of get tough on slamming language we need. The medic is in charge of patient care. Daniel Martin cannot relieve the medic of that duty, no matter how loudly he throws a tantrum. n>
He was interfering with the trooper doing his job.
The trooper was interfering with EMS personnel doing their jobs. Any sensible trooper would have taken this up at the hospital or through appropriate channels. Not Daniel Martin.
Once you lay hands on an officer, you are bought and paid for.Bought and paid for? What kind of juvenile statement is that? I guess the DA needs to be educated by a smarty pants like you. If only the DA would realize what an excellent educator is available to him.
It amazes me how ignorant some are.
Daniel Martin demonstrated profound ignorance, when he interfered with patient care. You are defending that ignorance. You should hope that you do not do something similarly stupid on camera. You criticize a minor mistake, but are guilty of many similar mistakes. You are a hypocrite.
Stop trying to give honest LEOs a bad reputation.
Also on MedicThree …
- Daniel Martin, Oklahoma Highway Patrol Moron of the year – June 17, 2009
- Trooper Daniel Martin v Maurice White – July 23, 2009
- Trooper Daniel Martin. Saga of a jackass. – June 17, 2009
- OHP vs Ambulance – June 14, 2009
*clap clap clap*
Someone got schooled here. Why does it not surprise me that anon chose to post as such. *cough*
Just saying.
Anon is correct, that the passenger does not violate OHP policy. Different departments have different policies regarding ride-alongs. Having a ride-along during a Code 3 run is not generally prohibited, although many departments do prohibit it during chases.
I have been on ride-alongs and I must say they give a whole new insight into what an officer really does/goes through on a shift. I am in favor of them.
I give kudos to his wife for following ride-along protocol and keeping her cool, even when things went south. Been there, done that; know how it feels.
Thank you for the kind words and for highlighting my comment.
I expect that ride-alongs are permitted for OHP. We have ride-alongs in EMS. Our EMS ride-alongs face many of the same dangers that OHP ride-alongs do.
Perhaps Anonymous would benefit from a ride with EMS to experience the many distractions that might prevent the driver of an ambulance from pulling over immediately.
Immediately is an interesting word. It suggests that the driver should not consider anything except getting out of the way, but what if there are pedestrians on the side of the road? Animals? You hit a medium sized dog in a car and you may be deflected back in front of the trooper. What if a car in front of you is slowing down and pulling over faster than you can slow down and pull over safely in a much larger ambulance? Does Anonymous believe that unsafe driving is required in order to pull over immediately?
Anonymous suggests that immediate be interpreted literally, but that would be irresponsible. While we should be as aware as possible of our surroundings and notice lights and sirens approaching instantly, there are many distractions when driving an ambulance. Several of these distractions combined will make it unlikely that even Anonymous would have been able to pull over immediately, no matter how much Anonymous may have tried.
To pull over immediately might have been reckless. I suspect that reckless driving is a more serious violation of the Oklahoma motor vehicle code than failure to yield.
The driver of the ambulance is responsible for the safety of the occupants of the ambulance and the other drivers on the road. Sudden, or immediate, changes in direction are a bad idea. It appeared to me as if Paul Franks pulled to the side as soon as it was safe after he became aware of the trooper. I did not see anything in the video to contradict that.
If this story makes you mad, do a search on OHP trooper Barry Rowland who KICKED a handcuffed WOMAN in the chest repeatedly after she "spit on him". This was in November 2008 and Trooper Rowland has been on PAID LEAVE (aka paid vacation) while the OHP conducts an "investigation". Trooper Rowland was turned in by other local officers at the scene and it was all caught on dashcam video which OHP refuses to release.
I looked at the video 15 times and I did not see any wife or anyone else sitting in the front seat of the OHP vehicle. Nor did we hear anyone speaking on the OHP dashcam.. I don't believe that there was anyone in the car other than trooper Martin…I think the lawyers lied and said that she was there
Anon 10:42am
In the cell phone video at this link: http://www.newson6.com/Global/category.asp?C=121535&clipId=3801638&autostart=true
At exactly 00:27,the camera turns toward the OHP unit and a passenger is clearly seen in the front passenger seat. It is especially apparent as the videographer walks around the passenger side of the vehicle & we can see the person through the passenger window.
In the OHP dashcam video, at exactly 13:57:06, you can hear the female state, "What happened?"
In White's written statement found here: http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/NEWS9/PDF/0905/ambulanceincidentreports.pdf
he states that the reason the ambulance even pulled over for the trooper was that White saw the passenger in the OHP unit and thought perhaps that passenger needed medical assistance.
The OHP has -from the getgo- readily admitted it was Martin's wife in the OHP unit.
And, lastly, on page 4 of White's lawsuit against Martin here: http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.newsok.com/documents/y22emtlawsuit.pdf
it is stated repeatedly that Martin in fact picked up the female at the location where he stopped (where we hear her say "What happened"), questioning whether he was running Code for an emergency at all.
So, without question, there was a passenger in the vehicle.
In no way shape or form am I suggesting that there is anything wrong with having his wife in the vehicle for a ride-along, since it appears it was done according to OHP policies. In fact, I commend her for keeping her cool during a rather hairy situation. Been there, done that; I know what it feels like.
But please don't accuse the lawyers of lying about this particular minuscule portion of the whole debacle, since evidence & statements (long before attorneys got involved) show there to be a passenger.
I just can't understand all these people who stand around and say “Let the cops screw you. Just cooperate and everything will be fine!”
Martin was not a LEO in this circumstance. If he is acting outside of the law in his own actions, how can he claim to be enforcing the law? His authority goes out the window. Given that, as soon as he put his hands on White's neck I would have arrested him. And if necessary, consistent with Oklahoma Statute Title 21, met force with force, including deadly force, to prevent Martin from causing significant bodily harm to White.
People need to stop being afraid of police, learn the law, and be prepared and willing not to be ruled by bad cops. All those people in the video just stood around while an innocent man was being battered and a patient was being ignored all because one man with a gun had an ego-trip.